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On Etiquette

Hi,

I’m wondering if you can explain to me the betting etiquette for no limit. Can you? And do you know what makes players mad in casinos with betting? How about the rules with string betting, any idea?

Say player 1 raises 20 chips. Player 2 then calls 20 chips by placing those chips into the pot. He then reaches back after the 20 chips is in, he goes all in.

If in case, I might say (along with some friends) that Player 2′s 20chips in the pot, without saying “raise” and after pulling his hands out of the pot, is a call. But if he later chooses to leave the rest of his chips in, it will be considered as a bet in the dark.

Another thing, if players 1, 2, and 3 are involved in a hand and player 2 drops one of his cards accidentally and player 1 sees it, 1 and 2 now know one of 2′s pocket cards. Do you think player 2 has to flip the card for the rest to see? Your thoughts?

Thank you in advance.

Best regards,
Herbie
Herbie,

First, Player two made a string bet. When you make a raise, you must either do it all in one motion or verbally that you’re going to raise. Player 2 just called in that case.

Also, player 2 may not leave his chips out as a dark bet, unless he is first to act the next hand. If he is first to act and wishes to bet dark, he may.

In the case where a card was exposed, yes, he must flip it over for everyone else to see that is in the hand. Show one, show all.

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Opponents Getting Mad

Hello,

I was in a certain event the other night. Before the flop, there was no raise and I was in the small blind therefore I called a 8d-4d. Flop then brought Ks-10d-6-d. After a while, my opponent raised a small amount and so I called it. Turn came and brought 7c. He later put me all-in which made me think I already have sufficient outs to call him. Afterwards, I showed my hand and he showed his pair of 10′s. Before he could say anything back then, river came and brought 9h. In the end, I won the pot with the straight. Before we finally called the game over, he said something to me like “How can you call me with an 8 high flush draw?” and I told him I didn’t even need the flush to beat him. Your thoughts on this?

Well, I also got into with this opponent later when he raised me $10 and I came over the top and with an Ace high raised him $40. He then folded and I showed it to him but he said I don’t have to make such act at all. On my part, I did it to let him know I wasn’t afraid to bluff but at some point I don’t know if it’s a bad poker etiquette actually. What do you think?

Thanks in advance!

Regards,
Jason
Jason,

In the first hand, unless the bet on the turn was less than 25% of the pot, you really should not have called that bet. You did not have the odds to draw. You needed to catch a five or your flush to win, but at the turn you had only a 24% chance to win.

It’s not bad etiquette to show your hand, but some people take it as you showing them up or trying to embarrass them.

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What’s Next After Knowing the Odds?

Hi,

I’m wondering if what these percentages tell me. In case we use a 4 to the flush after the flop scenario, I have a 36% chance to make my hand. In the event we go all the way by math, my chances aren’t greater than 50%. Do you think if not all, most of my plays should only be when I have greater than 50% to make my hand? Or else if not, then what? Semi-bluff, raise, call or fold? And for me to stay in, how should the pot be?

Thanks in advance!

Best regards,
Tim
Tim,

What should determine whether you stay in the pot or not is the pot odds. The way to determine pot odd is to take the amount of money that you need call a bet and divide it by the amount of the pot before your call. This tells you what percentage your call is to the pot. If the call is less than or equal to the percentage to hit your hand, then you can make the call.

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When to Draw

Hi,

I’ve been into poker for some time now but for some reasons I still don’t when I’m supposed to draw. Any thoughts? For an instance I have a four flush on the flop and someone bets big, do you think I should call fold? Or if not, raise?

Your help will be much appreciated.

Thanks a lot!

Warm regards,
Romeo
Romeo,

You should only draw to a straight or flush when you have the proper odds to do so. The simplest way to figure this out is first to determine what outs you have. Say you have 9 outs to hit your hand after the flop. Multiply this by 4 and you have your percentage to hit your hand. If you are on the turn, multiply by 2. Next, divide the amount that you must call in the pot, by the current pot size. This will give you the percentage of the pot that your call represents. If the percentage of your hitting the hand is greater than or equal to the percentage of the pot that you must call, then you should draw. If not, then fold.

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On Pocket Aces

Hello,

Well I guess all of us know the feeling when you go all in preflop only for someone to call and turn over bullets. I myself even saw them beaten for several times. Because of this, I wanted to find out what the probability of overturning them is. For this, kindly consider the following scenario:

AA vs AKs
AA vs KK
AA vs KQs

I badly need to hear your thoughts or opinion. Thanks in advance!

Best regards,
Joey
Joey,

Kings win against Aces 19% of the time. A-K offsuit wins 7% of the time. A-K suited 12% of the time. K-Q suited is 18% of the time.

The only way to turn this around is to keep playing. You will lose sometimes with Aces. I did so just last night. I had a 3 way all in. I had Aces, an opponent had Kings, and the third person had A-10 suited. A 10 on the flop and turn ended my day.

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Pot Odds and the Cost to See Fourth Street

Hi,

I actually have two questions to ask but before I lay them down let me first share a bit of myself and my poker experience. Well, I am a beginner who play for small amounts with other couples. For the last 6 months, I’ve played online and lost for many times. The bad beats just actually ended when I started following your advices, tips, etc. Thanks to you!

Now here are my questions:

  1. How do you quickly figure how much is in the pot when figuring pot odds? Do you normally keep track of it as you go or just make an estimation when it is already your time to make a move?
  2. Say I have Ace 8 h and the flop is queen h 5h 3d. Then my outs are 9 h’s and 3 aces for a total of 12 outs. Later to hit 4th street I have around 24% chance and to the river I have around 48%. At such point, pot size is $100 and for me to stay it will cost me $25 or less. But I wonder, what if it will cost me $75 to stay to see 4th street? Will it be worth it?

Thanks in advance!

Warm regards,
James
James,

  1. You need to either track it yourself or get good at estimating the pot size by sight.
  2. A $75 bet is 42% of the pot. Since you have a 48% chance on the flop to hit your hand by the river, you have odds and should call.
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With Losing Hands

Hi,

I’m here to ask this, how will you know you have the best hand? Recently I played online and had KQs. Well, it was a 1$ big blind table. At the position before the button, there were no raises preflop therefore I just raised 1$. Players who were in the hand called. Flop then came and brought 333. Checks all around followed. After a while turn came and brought Q, it then checked all around. River came and was K. It later checked around to me therefore I decided to place 5$ bet. Everyone else then folded except for one player who re-raised me 15$. I then called with the thought that everything was just a bluff. He then showed me K3 off suit and immediately taken down the pot.

Now as I try to analyze things up I can’t afford not to think that I maybe have misplayed the hand. Also, I’ve read in books and websites that “If the pot is laying you 6:1 and your no worse than that to win it, make the call”. But I don’t know how can I ascertain if I’m 6:1 to win the hand or not.

The other day I’ve seen plenty of examples on your odds of making a draw or improving your hand, but I wonder, what if you’re not drawing to the Nuts, how can you tell what your winning odds are?

Please I need your help. Thanks in advance!

Best regards,
Tommy
Tommy,

First, that was a split pot. Both of you had three’s full of kings.

Next to determine whether your worse than 6 to 1 to win, when you 6 to1, you are around 17% to win the hand. If you are on the flop, figure out the number of outs to win the hand. Multiply it by 4. This will give you your percentage to win the hand by the river. If it is greater or equal to 17, then you are better than 6 to 1. On the turn, calculate your outs by 2 to get the percentage. If you are equal or better than 17% to hit your hand, then you are better than 6 to 1.

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Considering the Odds

Hello,

I’m here to ask something. Well, it’s about the decisions I made before which were actually based on pot odds, implied odds, and hand odds. I’ve read a lot of materials before and everything seemed to tell me that if you have the pot odds or the implied odds, you should call, even if you know you are behind, as if you hit you’ll be getting a good return on your investment. In case you don’t have the odds to call, against a drawing hand, you should fold. But then I ask myself, what if you have excellent pot odds, will this call for a raise?

Thanks for your time.

Best regards,
Andrew
Andrew,

While you may have excellent odds, they are still odds, they are not a sure thing. I would shy away from raising. While you may hit and win a bigger pot, if you miss, you will lose much more. You also set yourself up to let the person raise to a point where you don’t have odds.

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Texas Holdem Pot Odds

Hi,

Say there are 4 players in a hand and after the flop I’m on the button. Then small blind bets and everyone else calls. Do you think I need to calculate their bets into the pot size? For an instance, pot size $7, 1pl bet $3, 2pl call $3, and 3pl call $3. If in case I have 19% to hit my flush, do you think I have to add up the pot size with the bets behind me to calculate pot odds? If so, will it be 7 + 3 / 3 = 3/10 =30%? How about 16+3/3=3/19 = 15.7%? Your thoughts please.

Hope to hear from you soon.

Many thanks,
Victor
Victor,

You need to include all the money in the pot from all players to calculate your pot odds. It would be Size of Pot/Your call=Percentage of pot. In your case 16/3=.1875 or 18.75%. You can round this up to 19% if you so desire. You have the exact minimum you need to call this bet.

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Pot Odds Problems

Hi,

I was in a certain event just last night. I’ve got 8,10 clubs and the flop was 9,J,4 rainbow therefore I flopped the open ender. Then I called $5 to see the turn but don’t hit. After a while, a particular player placed a bet with two others behind me. At such point, pot was $72. I then considered that because I only had 1 card to go, with 8 outs, I had roughly 16% chance of hitting the river and would probably cost me $10 for the $72 pot, 7:1 on my bet. I immediately folded.

I don’t know why but I thought afterwards that if $82 was in and it would cost me $10 to call the river, then that would be 8:1 on my money. If I have the same 16% chance to hit, it seems that it’s just right to call.

For some time now, I’ve been playing and it seems that I’m always drawing whenever I flopped an open ended straight or 4 to the flush, w/out calculating odds. I’m having problems with gutshot sometimes. Well, I understand that if you have a gutshot on the flop you have a 1/11 chance of hitting. But what if you are playing $3/6, how much should be in the pot for you to call $3 for the gutshot? I guess $33. And how about if have 8 outs, does this mean I have a 1/4 chance on the river? When playing in a low limit game, how strongly should implied odds be considered?

Do you think I’m just missing something? I think I should try to read more tips, situational problems, etc.

Thanks for your time.

Warm regards,
Johnny
Johnny,

In your first example, you actually had odds to call. You had a call equal to 13.8% of the pot and a 16% chance to hit your hand. You should have called.

When figuring out pot odds, if your call is a low percentage of the pot than your percentage to hit your hand, then you need to make the call.

As far as calling $3 for a gutshot draw. On the flop there should be at least $19 in the pot for you to call $3.

Implied odds should not be a concern in Limit Holdem. NL holdem is a better use for Implied odds.

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Being Pot Committed

Hello,

First, I would like to commend you for this wonderful site. It has been a great help to me and to many others as well. Thanks a lot!

Now for my question, how will you know that you are already pot committed? I often hear the line “He had to call the all in bet because he was pot committed”. I’m clueless on this.

Glad to hear from you in no time.

Thanks again!

Regards,
Rafael
Rafael,

Being pot committed means that you have so much money committed to the pot already that it would be a mathematical error to fold to another bet. This is more common in tournaments when someone is facing an all in or facing a big pot short stacked.

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With Implied Odds

Hello,

I’m here to ask something about pot odds. Say you are playing in a full table, no limit cash game, with blinds of $0.50/$1.00. Then blinds post and three limpers appear. You check and you discover you have Ks Ts in the button. You call and SB folds while BB checks. Pot at such point is $5. Then flop brings As 2s 5c. BB bets $5 and one limper calls. Pot is now $15. To go on to the turn to get 3-1, it would cost you $5.

Now you have 2-1 to hit by the river, but 4-1 to hit by the turn. If you can ascertain if he wouldn’t bet on the turn then you can use the 2-1 method, but you can use 4-1 instead in case you don’t know such.

Well, for your theory of throwing the hand away because your opponent rates to bet the turn, I think you are missing something. For me, I’d still make the call as when you actually make your flush on the turn, you want your opponent to bet into you. In case I hit it on the turn, then more or less they will bet into me and I’ll probably win lots of money. In case I miss, I can get lost or when they grant me a free card, I can try again to make a flush or else bluff them till they are out. Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance!

All the best,
Joey
Joey,

Personally, on the flop, I am sticking with my odds to determine the call in most cases. In the scenario you presented, you have a 36% chance to hit your flush by the river. If my call is 36% or less of the pot, then I will call. In your scenario, the $5 call is only 33% of the pot. I am making the call here.

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Home Cash Game and Rake Issue

Hi there!

The other day I was in a home cash game, $1/$2 No Limit. At some point I raised $25. A certain guy then went all in with $32. Player near me limped in and called. I then tried to re-raise and go all in w/ $220 but later was informed that I can only call the $32 all in of the other guy. Well, I knew then that I had the player who called much later dominated. He then flopped a cheap 2 pair. Unfortunately, my KK didn’t made it. Do you think what happened was just normal in a home or casino game?

By the way, in $1/$2 no limit cash game, what would be the proper rake? In a certain $1/$2 game pots were huge and back then we’ve been raking $1 max every round. Total bet then equaled to $20 minimum. Your thought?

Hope to hear from you soon.

Thanks and more power!

Regards,
Louven
Louven,

Since your opponent did not raise at least ½ the minimum raise, it does not count as a true raise. Therefore, all you could do is call. This is normal.

As far as your rake, technically it is illegal to run a game that charges a rake since you are not a casino. With that said, most casinos take a percentage of the pot as the rake. A rake of $1 per round is a little excessive. That’s $4 per round. A lot of casinos do 10% of the pot. In the scenario above, that would be $2.

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Issue on Cockiness

Hello,

I’m here to ask something about emotion. Well, I know and I understand why emotion badly affects one’s play. For me tilt has never been much of a problem unlike cockiness.

I know I must admit it, when I sit down and play calmly and with humility, I know my game is going to be tight, aggressive and seriously thoughtful. And in the event I am in such mood more or less I’ll be placing money in the tournament I’m in or at least double my money if in a ring game.

Just the other day, after days of good play, I was very cocky and played cleverly. I bluffed a lot if I just remember it right. I don’t understand why every time cockiness strikes in me, I lose. Maybe for some reasons, but for reasons I don’t know.

Because I badly want cockiness to be out on my system, I started forcing myself to play the free money tables and also play real money only when I’m focused. Any thoughts?

Hope to hear from you soon.

Best regards,
Kevin
Kevin,

When someone becomes cocky, they usually convince themselves that they are superior to all players and they buy into their belief to the extent of overlooking information that other players may present in a hand. They may feel that a player couldn’t possibly call their bluff or that they couldn’t call with an inferior hand and hit. When a player gets this mindset, the tight players at the table take advantage and punish them when they make a mistake.

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On Odds

Hello,

Say in late position I started the hand with Js and 10c. Afterwards, everybody called. I also called and then flop appeared, Ah Qh 9s. I now have an open ended straight draw. Two out of five players who called pre-flop remains at such point. One player raised the other called. Then I called after I considered my odds and the pot odds. Turn came, 4h. Then same player raised. At such point maybe the other two guys have an ace and so I might win in case I draw the straight on the river. But I noticed three hearts were on the board and if either one of them has pocket hearts I will lose. Based on your probabilities chart there was a 1:4 chance of being dealt suited cards although I’m assuming the odds of being dealt suited hearts are 1:16. And with two or three players the odds that at least one of them has pocket hearts may be better than 1:16. Odds then were 1:4. I figured out with my open ended straight draw I have eight outs with about 1:6 odds of hitting it.

How do you think I can factor my opponents 1:4 odds of having a flush and beating me and my 1:6 odds of hitting the straight combined with the pot odds to ascertain whether or not I should call or fold?

Thanks a lot!

Regards,
Denz
Denz,

At the turn, with 8 outs, you have a 16% chance to hit your hand. If you don’t think your opponent has a flush, if the amount to call is 16% or less of the total pot, then take a shot at your draw. Otherwise, it is time to fold.

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Side Pots and Calls

Hello,

Do you think a player who called the main pot but doesn’t want to play in a side pot can still play for the main pot or else he’s going to be eliminated from both pots?

Say there are four players, player A, player B, player C, and player D. Player A for $50 goes all in. Player B for the same amount calls. Player C raises to $100. Now $50 main pot and $50 side pot. Finally player D folds.

Do you think player B to be able to stay in the game has to call the $50 or he can actually pass on the raise and just play for the main pot? And in your opinion, will it matter in case player B called the original raise which was $50 but later on opted not to call another raise from player C? Any thoughts?

More power!

Many thanks,
Brian
Brian,

One a player goes all in, the remaining players in the hand compete for the side pot, which includes the rights for the main pot. If a player folds to a bet in the side pot, they forfeit their rights to the main pot. They cannot pass on playing for a side pot. They must play it.

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About AQs and Maniac Style of Play

Hi there!

Say you begin with 800 chips and blinds are 15/30. Just as the same in the early tourney like
third hand, you see AQs and you raise it up to 60. Then some callers appear however not the blinds. One or two of the callers are actually known for not being good and will call on poor hands. Then say flop is Qxx rainbow. In early position I bet approximately 60-90. Player behind me goes all in. Will this now ask for a call? Or else for a let go of my 120-150 chips and a lay down of my high pair?

Another thing, about the maniac style of play on money tables, do you think I should go play the same maniac style and have more money despite the risk of losing what I currently have?

I’ll be glad to hear from you in no time.

Thanks and more power!

Regards,
Alexis
Alexis,

I would call here. There is a good chance this guy has a under pair or something like Q-10 or K-Q.

As far as playing a maniac style, that is a style that you need to develop. Don’t just adjust in the middle of a tournament without understanding it. I would tinker with the style in either low limit on free money games and proceed from there.

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All for Free Cards

Hi,

What’s the most effective way to say check when you’re in early position heads up or against two opponents? How about when you hit the table indicating you have a pretty strong hand which in turn makes players check behind you so you can then see one or maybe even two free cards?

By the way, what if you’re in the hand and you don’t really have much however you want to see the cards and then they bet big, will you fold?

Thanks in advance.

All the best,
Tristan
Tristan,

The best way to check is to pat the table twice or three times to indicate you are checking.

In regards to your second question, it depends on the hand. Do you have a big hand or a big draw? If you don’t have much in the pot and not much of a hand, you need to fold. If you have a hand, then call.

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No Limit Cash Game and Tournament

Hi,

Just recently, I joined a no limit cash game and tournament. Well, I noticed that playing with cash chips is actually far different from playing with tournament chips. I noticed different typical pre-flop raises, different standards on what kinds of hands to bet, raise, or call, etc.

Luckily, I got a feel on good tournament strategy, however it was a different story when about cash games. I wasn’t able to get a feel on good cash game strategy. Any advice?

Your help will be much appreciated!

Thank you.

Regards,
Nick
Nick,

Cash games play a lot differently than tournaments. If a player busts out, they can buy back in. As a result you will see more drawing, and more play with speculative hands. One way you can play is a small ball method. This means seeing a lot of flops cheaply in the hopes to hit the flop hard. When you do hit, you can then punish your opponents.

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Raising on the Flop with a Flush Draw to Obtain a Free Card

Hi,

I want to ask something. It’s about raising on the flop with a flush draw to obtain a free card. I’m wondering if you know what’s the logical and sound way to make this play in the event there’s action on the turn. Any thoughts?

Another thing, is the act of raising the flop to obtain a free card the best move when playing against 1 opponent with a made hand? And if a call and a bet appear, what do you think will happen?

Well, in limits things seem clear, but I’m clueless about the things to happen in case you miss on the turn. Is it worth calling a bet on the turn? But how about if they bet with a reasonable amount on the flop?

I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Many thanks!

Warm regards,
Leo
Leo,

Raising to get a free card is best to do with one or two opponents only. If they call, they may check on the turn to you. If they don’t, this gives you a better idea of the hand they have. But another thing is that if they call the raise, they may be laying you better odds to draw on the turn to you flush.

On the turn, you have to go by pot odds to determine to draw or not. If you have the proper odds, then call the bet. If you don’t, then fold.

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Couple of Questions

Hello,

I have two questions to ask. Hope you have time.

The first one is about how one can tell a bad player has actually made a strong hand. Almost all loose-passive I know call all the way without considering if they have bottom pair or top set. In my case, I usually bet hand like top pair and keep still being aggressive.

If I may add, before facing such opponents, do you have to wait for the absolute nuts or can you go on playing big pairs and top pair with a good kicker with positive outlook?

The second one on the other hand is about the correct amount to value bet against the opponents above. Is it just to bet two times the size of the pot with the nuts say it’s okay for them to call any of your bets?

I hope to hear from you soon.

Many thanks,
Lutherford
Lutherford,

It depends on your opponent how much you can value bet at the end. Watch what they have called down and come up with a figure based on their style. Some will call down any amount, some will call down a much smaller bet. There isn’t a single set rule for this.

In regards to playing bad players, I would continue to play solid hands and push my advantage. Yes, they will suck out on you, but over time, you will triumph. As far as determining if they have strong hands, sometimes you can’t. If they continue to bet and call the same way throughout, you won’t be able to put them on hands. However, if they start changing their bet sizes out of the ordinary, then there is a chance they have hit a hand. Also, if they are always betting out or calling and start doing the opposite action, then that is another sign.

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Pot Committed

Hello,

I usually hear this statement: “He had to call the all in bet because he was pot committed”. It sounds simple but I don’t know how would I ascertain if I’m already pot committed. Any thoughts? Also, is it a bigger factor in tournament play compared in a ring game? What do you think?

Many thanks,
Luis
Luis,

This scenario is the same for ring games and tournaments. When someone is pot committed, the pot has so much money in it compared to their remaining stack, they must call or go all in. This is more applicable to short stacks, but usually if a pot is laying better than 2 to 1 to your money, you are committed in a lot of hands. The only time you would not be is if you have a limited number of draws.

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Right Time to Call

Hi there!

I don’t know when is the right time to call. I believe you have an idea on this. Well, for me it appears that only 3 buttons on my computer work, raise, bet and fold. Most of the time, I raise
as I trust my bluff and semi-bluff potential, I bet to test out the water and then raise to obtain useful information or give my opponent a tough time.

As of now, I’m into trouble when I can’t hit the flop. Usually, I end up folding a lot and it seems to me that the only way out is to call more.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Cezar
Cezar,

This depends on your read of the opponent and the texture of the flop. You should be leading out more on the flop when you raise preflop. When you don’t you are telegraphing that you missed the flop and players can take advantage.

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Bluffing Weak Players

For more than 20 years now, I’ve been playing poker for more than 20 hours a week, mainly online. I play well in $2/4 6max NL holdem but then just recently I decided to try my luck in other level and so I moved up to $3/6NL.

I’ve tried to read some poker books and visit some forums and for several times I’ve encountered the idea about AT-AQ, and KT-KQ being a crap. And is true that tight-aggressive poker can be a winning poker and bluffing weak players is the dumbest thing one could do?

Before, I used to fire three bullets with over cards, typically would call raises with AJ out of position. I would also play unusually and would bluff a lot. I usually win with such kind of approach, normally win between $600-1000 a day. I was then considered as one of the most aggressive and best short handed players on my site. However, after I started the reading and all, some things have changed.

As of the moment, I’m having a trouble with regards to winning at $.10/.20 full ring games. I believe the golden rules below have something to do with my problem.

  • Don’t play loose, tight poker is winning poker 2. Don’t bluff weak players, they simply won’t fold
  • Don’t be weak/tight, be aggressive!
  • Don’t call raises out of position with weak hands

I tried the Super System before and I would typically raise preflop with ATo then get called by the big blind. Flop would appear and would bring something like 9c7h2c. BB then would check and I would bet the pot. BB then would call and then turn would bring in something as 4s. BB would check and then I would place BB on a flush draw and then would bet the pot one more time. BB would call and river would be something like Jh. BB then would check and I would push all in, BB would fold. I would then win lots of money.

Right now, I played differently and winning is already an impossible thing. Many things are troubling me and my aggressive style before doesn’t work anymore. It doesn’t scare people like it used to. Please, I need your help.

I hope to hear from you soon.

Thanks and more power to you!

Regards,
King
King,

You are playing at too low of a limit for your aggression to work. .10-.20 games have players that are either outright bad or just don’t care because there is so little money involved with buying back in. You have to adjust your style to play at tables like this. See more flops cheap and punish when you hit, or tighten up and play your big hands strong.

Tight poker is winning poker and at lower limits, it’s nearly impossible to bluff. Your style will work better at more reasonable limits.

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Choosing 6 7 Over Pocket Aces

Hello,

One time you said you’d prefer to play with 6,7 than pocket aces. Honestly, I can’t believe you you’d prefer playing with 6,7. Maybe you are into something. Maybe you want others to be worse in playing poker so you can destroy them. Well, if your intention was somewhat like that congratulations as you succeeded. Some players now believe calling a big bet pre-flop is okay with 6,7.

I’m sorry but I don’t mean to offend you or what. I know what you mean by saying you would rather play 6,7 however not everyone will understand what you are trying to imply. Also there’s a great possibility that some players will really choose 6, 7 than poker aces though it will lead them to horrible calls and cost them a lot of money.

Any thoughts?

Regards,
Beeler
Beeler,

I don’t know who said to choose 6-7 over pocket aces, but it wasn’t me. If you want to lose, go ahead and choose 6-7 over pocket aces. 6-7 suited is only 23% to win heads up with aces. Unsuited drops to 19%

I’m wondering if this is being taken out of context with something else. However, I wouldn’t call a big raise with 6-7. Some will in order to try and crack aces. If you are trying to crack aces, 9-10 is a much better ace cracking hand due to the array of straights it can make.

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Maybe Just a Wrong Interpretation of His Action

Hello,

I regularly play with some friends. In one of our games, an argument about the move of a certain player at the table came up.

At some point, only two of us were left in the hand. I remember I’ve stated that I was all in. Other player then tossed over his cards to show what he had. I figured then out that maybe he finally folded and so I flipped my cards over and started gathering the chips. I saw him then having a peek at my hand. Consequently, he called my all-in. He then said his intention was to think for a while if he would call or not. However, for me his gesture really meant he finally folded. Any thoughts? Who should take home the pot?

Thank you.

Regards,
Joe Darwins
Joe,

This move has been very common in the past. It is done for the player to gague the reaction to the other player and try to pick up some tell to help them determine whether to call or not. The World Series of Poker has outlawed this move because it is considered as influencing action. Some casinos have followed suit, but some still allow a heads up hand between an all-in opponent and another opponent to unfold like this.

In this case, if he had the better hand, he wins. Sorry.

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Side Pot Issues

Hello,

I’m new to poker so I have some issues in mind. Please help me. By the way the issues are more on side pot.

The first one, what determines the number of side pots? Second one, say there are 8 players and there are two two all in, will this call for 2 side pots?

I hope I make sense here.

Thank you so much!

Warm regards,
Fry
Fry,

What determines the number of side pots is how many separate all ins that there are.

In the scenario above, if two players are all in, then unless the two players have equal stacks, there will be two side pots.

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Surprising Chips

Hi,

I was in a certain tournament the other week. Near end of the said tournament, after the flop, I placed $10,000 bet. Well, I was raised $30,000 more and so I called. Later, we revealed the cards. Luckily, I won the pot. I then started to count my chips and I’ve discovered I had $38,000 when I was raised. The player who lost said that I didn’t actually raise him all-in, which I know is true. Additionally, the remaining $8,000 could have been into the next round of bidding.

Obviously, the player who lost had so many questions in mind. He totally can’t believe everything.

In the end, we just both agreed that the extra $8,000 will go to him and the $30,000 raise to me. Any thoughts on this?

Thanks!

Koch
Koch,

Did your player move all-in or just call your bet? How did the rest of the hand unfold. If your opponent only had 30,000 more and you called, the game is over as you won. The 8,000 extra you had in your hand is irrelevant. Now if your opponent moved all-in and had you covered, and you discovered you had 8,000 more, then he owed you an extra 8,000.

He has no rights to your 8,000 chips there, especially since he lost the hand.

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He Never Said He’d Call

Hello,

Just this weekend, I was in a 107man NL Tournament. Actually, it was a community deal type of tournament. Mid part I was involved in a hand in which I had Kh Jh and was heads up with a guy who had Jc 9c. Flop came and brought 7c 7h 5c. Turn followed and brought 7d. River was next and gave Kc. Afterwards, I discovered the guy had the flush therefore I pushed all in. I was the large stack then.

Guy then said “Yea okay”. Dealer thought he folded and so started raking in the community cards. I don’t understand all the raking in stuff and so I asked the dealer about such. Dealer then said that the guy folded therefore I tossed my cards leading to the direction of the cards that where raked. After a while, I started gathering the chips. But the guy interrupted by flopping his cards over to show the flush. He then said he called the all in. Of course I defended myself. I told him that I had KJ hearts and the dealer removed the first 2 cards from the muck pile and showed what I said I had. Director then came in between us and sided to my favor.

What do you think of what happened? Any thoughts?

Thanks for your time.

Regards,
Brookley
Brookley,

The tournament director was correct to side with you. First, the dealer told you the opponent had folded. Therefore you acted based on the dealer’s actions. You cannot be penalized for a dealer’s mistake.

Next, in regards to his “Yea, Okay,” I have seen that handled two ways. First, he did not specifically say the words, “I call.” The dealer must confirm what his actions are. The other situation I have seen was a ruling from a tournament director that said that since he said “Yea Okay” after you said you are all in, the person actually called.

For future events, have the dealer verify the players intention.

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Reshuffle or Not

Hello,

In a certain tourney, there were two players involved in a particular hand. At the turn, both checked. Player 1 checked at fourth street however player 2 placed a reasonable bet to put player 1 all-in.

Later, dealer thought player 1 folded and so placed the rest of the cards into the muck and then pushed the following cards to the following dealer. Afterwards, player 2 started to have the pot down however player 1 expressed he wanted to call the bet. Well, none of the players had mucked a hand at such point and so two cards were conceived to be still at the top of the pile.

In the end, though no one was totally sure which cards should be dealt, it was agreed to eventually burn and turn over the river card. Player 1 as a result had the winning hand. Because it was already mixed up with the mucked cards of the other players, deck could not be shuffled anymore.

Thanks for your time.

Wiederstein
Wiederstein,

It depends. Was a cut card used? If so, was the cut card left at the bottom of the mucked deck. If so, look for the cut card. If the deck was put on top of the muck pile, then the cards above the cut card is the deck. If the deck was mixed with the muck pile, then you have a problem.

I personally have not come across this situation so I asked help from a friend that is a tournament director for the World Series of Poker. She told me that in the event the deck was mixed up, take the entire muck pile, shuffle it, and then burn and deal out the rest of the hand.

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Chip Dumping

Hello,

What is chip dumping? I saw the term listed in 2007 WSOP Rules. I know you’re the best person to help me on this.

Thanks,
Lutz
Lutz,

Chip dumping is where someone will intentionally lose their chips to another player. Usually the two players have an agreement. In the past a certain professional used to have players buy in with him for satellites and then at the end if he was heads up with this person, the person would intentionally lose hands or call all in bets and fold without showing.

This is a form of cheating.

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Wrapping Players in Hand

Hello,

I was in a NL holdem tourney just the other day. Before the flop, blinds 25-50. There were 5 players left and were in the hand. Player 1 called for 50. Player 3 followed and acted out of turn, raised to 250. Dealer then came in between and requested player 2 to make a move. Player 2 called. Because of this, player C was then forced to keep his 250 in. Player 4 was next and folded. Afterwards it was player 5, he called 250.

Action was then back to player 1, he called 250 as well. Player 2 then raised to 1400. Then for 6000, player 3 went all in. Suddenly, the action was interrupted with a complaint about players 2 and 3 making some moves to angle some players. Well, we have some rules which went as follows:

  1. The action of player 3 stands for 250.
  2. Because player 2 is up on a 50 bet, he then has the chance to choose whether he will fold, call, or raise such bet.
  3. In the event he chooses to call, he can’t raise anymore in case the bet returns to him at 250.
  4. Any player who failed to act out in his turn should treated as player 2.
  5. Hence, players 2 and 3 cannot wrap others who are in hand.

We arrived with these rules to protect all of the players. But unexpectedly another complaint appeared. It was about player 2. He disagreed on the idea that he lost his right to wrap all players in hand.

Any thoughts please?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Del Duca
Del Duca,

The rules in this scenario should have been as follows:

  1. Player 3 acted out of turn and raised to 250.
  2. Player 2 has the option to act on player 1’s bet. He can call raise or fold the 50 bet.
  3. If player 2 calls player 1, then the 250 bet from player 3 is binding. If he raises, then the 250 bet is not binding and player 3 can act on player 2’s bet.
  4. Since player 2 did not raise the bet from player 3 stands, and the betting continues as normal.
  5. Players that act out of turn should be treated as player 3 was.

The other players may have a valid complaint about player 2 angling, but player 2 was within his rights to just call the bet from player 1. When action came back to player 2, he was within his rights to reraise, as was player 3 to move all in.

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About All In Bet

Hello,

In a certain tournament, a guy went all in for 1500. The blinds were 500/1000. Do you think the next guy should make it 2000 or else he can just call the all in bet? I’m actually clueless. Please, I need your help.

Thanks!

Regards,
Revell
Revell,

If he is the only player left to act, he can just call the all-in bet. Otherwise, the can raise up to the entire amount in his stack.

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Playing With KK

Hello,

I play well in NL $200 with blinds $1-$2. I’m actually a shorthanded player. I used to play aggressively, but of course at times I’m also watchful and see it to it that I’m still on my limits.

Once, I was standing on $750 and was dealt KK in late position. A player who just came in with around $200 raised to $6 in early position. I then made it $15 to go and he called. Flop came and brought 9s 5s 2s. Afterwards, such guy went all in with $33 in the pot. I believe this was grossly over bet as a player with a made flush would call. If he had the nut flush or smaller suited connecting spades, there’ll be no sense at all. However I was bothered as if he doesn’t have a flush yet, what else could he have? Perhaps an over pair which I strongly believe I could beat. If not, a small pair hitting a set, or else just two over cards with one spade or a bad bluff.

What do you think was his hand then? Will it be worth calling if in case? And am I right with my conclusions?

Thanks!

Warm regards,
Clark Davis
Clark,

Someone with a made flush will check here and hope you bet into them unless they are a rank beginner. I would put him either on a big pair or a draw hoping to convince you he made a straight.

I would put him on a flush draw or a pair such as J-J or Q-Q or even A-K with a spade. I would have probably called here. If you folded her due to the pot laying such a high price, I can understand that. Calling $185 to win $218 is a bit of a stretch. With only having $15 invested, I can understand if you waited for a better spot.

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On Various Stack Sizes

Hello,

I have some questions to ask. They are actually related to some stuff I’ve come to discover without any intentions.

In some discussion sections, I’ve come to hear about No Limit Texas Holdem being something related to Deep Stack No Limit or extreme short stack No Limit. In the first one, you can actually play a wide variety of starting hands as the implied odds are excellent. The post flop play is also much complex as bluffing is much more helpful and useful. In the second one, position is very vital as a hand like ATo may be an allin hand right after several limpers in the event you are on the button, however in the event you are under the gun, an easy fold. In connection with this, say in a game, suited connectors seem like of no worth as you will never hit your hand enough while pocket pairs are valuable due to their value. Post flop play on the other hand is more on all-ins and folding.

Now, what hands become more or less playable in no limit games with medium stack? Say in a 1/2 game with effective stacks of $100, I’ll call $10 raises heads up with medium and low pocket pairs to try have a set. In case there no callers would appear, I might call a not so high raise but if in case I’m up against a good player I might fold a PP to a raise to avoid a beat. Then say suited connectors’ value is seriously dependent on the aggressiveness of the game and your position as well, earlier, you will most likely fold but later I’ll limp in when there’s a cheap multi-way flop.

On the other hand, high card hands like AK are where my stress level goes up. More or less in deep stack events on a K98 flop, I’ll fold my AK when things get worst. However in short stack events, it would be a different story. In medium stack events, I’ll be right on the fence.

Oftentimes, when I raise $10 preflop, I’ll get one caller and then flop would appear K98. I’ll then bet about $20 and they’ll push their 90$ stack in. In the end, I’ll get irritated. At times, I’ll be tempted to lay down all as I seem to fold more pretty good hands compared to my opponents at the table.

Now, here are my questions:

  1. Is there anything I need to adjust when it comes to my pre-flop raising, limping and raise-calling requirements? And because such games tend to be aggressive post flop particularly online, do you think hands as suited connectors go down in terms of value due to lack of odds to draw? Do I need to call generously in late position or else it should be a no-set-no-bet level of tightness? What do you think?

  2. In such games, how should I play marginal hands? I believe in deep stack no limit you don’t want to bet your stack but in short stack you will do everything to have your chips in the middle. How about in medium stack?

  3. Say somebody is putting pressure on your head as he has something that could beat you or else just know you are playing tight, how would you play? What will be your defense?

  4. When you are in position, what are the moves you should use?


  5. Do you think there is a reason for you to semi-bluff with your primary draw in games where everyone overvalues their hands? Or else just stick to calling in the event you have implied odds or the like?

Thanks for your time.

Regards,
Nickerson
Nickerson,

  1. As far as your preflop play, I would stick with trying to see flops cheap with a wide array of reasonable hands. Obviously you want to raise with strong hands, but otherwise, try to see a cheap flop and hope to hit it hard. As far as calling a raise, I would tend to stick with stronger hands to call raises, unless there is a lot of action. Then you can widen the range some, but not get too crazy.

    Hands such as suited connectors do go down in value when the betting is very aggressive post flop. If you play suited connectors, make sure that they are on the higher side to give you better odds of hitting top pair or two pair. In late position after the flop, what you call depends on what you are holding and the number of players and the opponent you are playing. Sometimes playing super tight is right. Sometimes it’s right to call. Poker is situational. It depends on what is going on at the time.

  2. With marginal hands, I would try and see cheap flops for the ones that I do play. This is a form of small ball poker. Get in cheap and then punish your opponents when you do hit well.

  3. One of two things can be done here. Switch to playing small ball and punish him when your hands hit the flop well or play tight and punish him when your big hands hit. Don’t go crazy and randomly raise or play hands that have no value. This will just bleed your stack.

  4. In position, I would bet out on the flop when checked to me a little more often. Semi-bluffing is obviously one tool you should use as well. Raising when you have no hand is something I would reserve for players that I deem that are just trying to steal the pot.

  5. When players overvalue their hands, I would stick with calling in the event you miss your draw. When you semi-bluff, you still must hit in order to win. If players overvalue their hands, a bluff will not force them off their hands.

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What Should I do When I have KK?

Hello,

Most of the time, when I play KK pre-flop, I get series of bad beats. So now I’m wondering, is it wise to go all-in or call all-in with all my stack or else just fold and then hope for a much better hand?

Another thing, I don’t like calling all-in pre-flop and would just choose to wait for the flop for me to eventually make further sound decisions. Any insights on this?

Thank you very much.

Kirk
Kirk,

When you play properly, you will receive a lot of bad beats. The fact that you are getting bad beats tells me that you are making good decisions. While that doesn’t really help you not lose with kings, it should reinforce that you are making good decisions and to continue to do so.

If the appropriate move is to go all in with kings preflop, then do so. If someone moves all-in against you preflop and you hold kings, you probably should call. Only one hand can beat you. Sometimes you may be able to put someone on pocket aces. If you truly feel they are on aces, and a fold is prudent, then by all means go with your reads. Otherwise, call with your kings.

Calling all-in preflop with kings is a solid decision. I would do so and let the cards fall as they may.

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Slowing Down a Lead Bettor and Check Raising the Turn

Hello,

I just want to know if how often does a call in position slow down a lead bettor in 6-handed high-stakes online games? And do you think players should expect more bluffs? How about big pots with weak hands, how common are they specifically where players are having a feel on the board texture and then go on in aggression or otherwise?

By the way, about the check-raising the turn without a super strong hand, is this common? It’s very important for me to know as I believe the turn is the most crucial street and it’s actually hard to play one pair hands if you don’t trust your opponent that much.

Thanks in advance. I hope to hear from you in no time.

All the best,
Albert
Albert,

In high stakes games, a call doesn’t slow down the lead bettor all that much unless the caller is a tight player. You definitely should expect more bluffs. Big pots with weaker hands are somewhat common based on the playing style of the players.

Check raising the turn without a hand again depends on the player. “Durrrr” I could see doing that without blinking. The same with Phil Ivey applies. Phil Hellmuth I wouldn’t expect that out of him that often as he plays very tight and solid.

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On the Way I Play

Hello,

Honestly, I don’t see high-limits as a fest full of bluffs. Well, I understand that the basis of all poker is more on doing and making a hand and eventually be paid for all of your efforts. However, better players play stronger and look to control the action no matter if they give importance to betting, bluffing, semi-bluffing, so on and do forth. Because of this, I’ve come to realize that to get paid accordingly, I should be in control and totally be unpredictable.

As of the moment, I love playing small ball poker. Usually I am the aggressor. Well, I oftentimes make use of my position and table image for other players to believe that I’m in for the pot. I don’t bluff that much however I open and bet a lot in small pots to eventually have action on my big hands nonetheless.

Considering the way I play, how well will I do in bigger games? Do you think other players will raise me more often or else call me in position as they want to know what I’ll do on the next street? What’s on your thoughts?

Thanks in advance!

Crawford
Crawford,

You need to work on your bluffing. If you can’t, or rather won’t bluff, then you will become to predictable at higher limits. Players will begin to raise you more when they realize you play small ball and make your play for bigger pots.

I would stick to lower limits and expand my game some if I were you. I don’t think you’re ready.

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How Do You Find My Play?

Hi,

I joined a cash game at a local card room with blinds 2/3. If I remember it right, there were 7 players then fighting for the pot. Most of the players were really good, they have combined tight and aggressive style of play and have a few hundred to back them up.

At some point, I’m UTG with AQs. I then raised to $9. Folded to button who re-raised to 25$, blinds folded. Consequently, I opted to call as I’ve seen such player checked down several hands earlier part of the game. Pot was $55. Flop came and brought J35 rainbow. I then checked to the raiser while he placed $50 bet. Eventually, I placed him on a steal, AK, or a pocket pair below Jacks. I then called. Pot was $155. Turn came but was a blank. Later, we both checked. River came and was another Jack. I then had some winnings and so placed $125 bet. I thought he would never call with AK or pocket 10s.

At some point, he stood up and then asked me if I have a Jack. I was speechless then. Afterwards he called and then had the pot with his KK.

How do you find my play?

Your help will be much appreciated.

Thanks!

Billy
Billy,

I found your read on the situation horrible. You raised and was reraised preflop. If you called, you should have folded on the flop to his bet. A-Q in early position is not a raising hand.

I am not sure why he checked the turn, but when you bet out on the river, the only way he was going to call is if he had a reasonable hand or had you beat. He asked if you had a Jack because you called his bet on the flop, checked the turn, and then moved in on the river. Your play was indicative of A-J. It could just as well been A-K or A-Q, which is probably why he called you.

You should have folded on the flop when you missed.

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Played With Weakness

Hello,

I was in a no limit event the other day with $4,000 buy-in and blinds 10/20. I had $3,500. At some point, everyone folded to me. When I was on the button, I got Ad 5s and then popped it up to 80. Eventually, small and big blind called. Then flop came and brought 5c 5d 7d. Later, SB and BB checked and so I placed 140$ bet, almost half the pot I believe.

Consequently, SB folded however BB raised to 380$. I then thought he had something weak therefore I tried to slow play. I then called. Turn came and brought 9d. Board then appeared as 5c 5d 7d 9d. Though there was a possibility for a straight and flush, I had Ad and trips therefore I had to fold then. Few seconds after and BB placed 700$ bet while I called.

River came and brought Qc. BB went all in for all my money. I remember I had around 2,200$ and in the pot, 4,800$. Finally, I folded.

In the end, he flipped over 44 and then laughed at me. I don’t know if I played just right. Well, I don’t think doing the slow play then was a bad move. But I believe I should have pushed all-in on turn with my flush draw and then had trips. Another thing, I don’t see how I should call on the river and the only stuff I beat was a bluff. What do you think?

Regards,
Collin
Collin,

I would have reraised on the flop. There were straight and flush draw possibilities on the flop. I would have raised on the turn as well to see where I was at.

At the river, there were lots of hands you could beat other than a bluff. I would have likely made the call with my set, especially since the player had been aggressive the whole way. Of course, I would have raised him at some point. Don’t slow play a set with a straight and flush draw possible.

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