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Couple of Questions
Hello,
I have two questions to ask. Hope you have time.
The first one is about how one can tell a bad player has actually made a strong hand. Almost all loose-passive I know call all the way without considering if they have bottom pair or top set. In my case, I usually bet hand like top pair and keep still being aggressive.
If I may add, before facing such opponents, do you have to wait for the absolute nuts or can you go on playing big pairs and top pair with a good kicker with positive outlook?
The second one on the other hand is about the correct amount to value bet against the opponents above. Is it just to bet two times the size of the pot with the nuts say it’s okay for them to call any of your bets?
I hope to hear from you soon.
Many thanks,
Lutherford
Lutherford,
It depends on your opponent how much you can value bet at the end. Watch what they have called down and come up with a figure based on their style. Some will call down any amount, some will call down a much smaller bet. There isn’t a single set rule for this.
In regards to playing bad players, I would continue to play solid hands and push my advantage. Yes, they will suck out on you, but over time, you will triumph. As far as determining if they have strong hands, sometimes you can’t. If they continue to bet and call the same way throughout, you won’t be able to put them on hands. However, if they start changing their bet sizes out of the ordinary, then there is a chance they have hit a hand. Also, if they are always betting out or calling and start doing the opposite action, then that is another sign.
Playing With Loose Colleagues
Hello,
I love playing no limit holdem with some colleagues. Typically they’re a bit loose. Some loves to see the flop even if it’s already been raised and re-raised pre-flop particularly when blinds are cheap.
Well, to later have positive results that would favor on my side, I believe I should play a lot of sub-par hands to adjust to the overall game pace and not be pushed around. Investing some time even with marginal hands as bottom pair with a couple of far-fetched draws or middle pair without kicker can also be of great help.
One thing, do you have any advice for me as to when I should rather muck my hand and keep my money in games with my colleagues?
Thanks!
Regards,
Lord Ian
Ian,
I would play a lot of cheap flop. If you can get in without a raise or get into a multi way pot with your substandard hands, you can make money when you flop lucky. But do this sparingly. Otherwise, you will bleed off chips.
On Side Pots and Split Pot
Hi,
I’m curious about the rules regarding side pots. Can you help me? I want to know all the rules. Well, once in a certain event I saw 6 players went all in and 5 winners came back.
Another thing, in some games, whenever 2 players have the same 2 pair, the pot is not given to the player with the highest kicker instead is divided. How come? I don’t totally understand why.
Thank you so much for your time.
All the best,
Musso
Musso,
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When a player is all-in and there are two or more players in the pot, a side pot can occur. The players then bet out the rest of the hand. If three or more players are on the side and one of those players goes all in, a second side pot continues. Each side pot is exclusive of the main pot and only involves the players that have money invested in them. However, at all times the players are battling over the rights of the main pot. For example, if there is a side pot and a player folds to his opponents bet, he forfeits the rights to the main pot. When all side action is finished, the winner of the side pots are determined first and then the winner of the side pot or pots then contend with the original all-in player for the main pot.
In your example it sounds like there were 7 players with 6 going all in. The fact that there were 5 winners means that the first four all in players won their hands and one of the two players in the last side pot won the rest.
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In the case that the pot was divided when both players had two pair, chances are that the fifth card on board was higher than the hold cards in the two players hands. The only other explanation was that they had the same hole cards.
I Lost!
Hello,
I was in a 2/4 NL event the other night. Last hand came and I was dealt Kd2d in the big blind. Later, everyone called the big blind.
Flop came and brought 8cKc8d. Small blind then placed a half the pot bet. By the way, he was a total fish and was on mega-tilt having lost about 9 buy-ins. Eventually, I called. A friend of mine followed and also called. Everyone else folded. Turn came and brought Jd. With the shortest stack, small blind then went all in. I then called after considering so many stuff. Last guy followed and also called. River came however of no help to me, no diamonds at all. Afterwards, hoping to scare him off a bit, I then placed what’s left of my stack, as my bet. Later, he called my all in and then showed 7h8s. Small blind had Kh10h.
Well, he won the biggest amount and to be honest I was really upset and disappointed. I know I had some mistakes but I can’t directly pinpoint all of them. Also, I’m wondering, did I make the right decisions in terms of betting or I should have stopped at some point? Any thoughts?
Thanks a lot!
Edwards
Edwards,
You were fine to see the flop since you were in the blind, but you should have slowed down when the flop hit the way it did. You had two pair, but no kicker at all. Since multiple players limped in, the chance that someone had an ace was high. At worst case scenario, you were behind to a better king.
Your mistake was staying in after the flop.
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