Posts Tagged ‘pair’

Revealing Your Hand at Showdown

Hello,

I remember in the movie Mavrick, James Coburn at some point said something to the effect of “I only have two pair, Aces and Aces”. Do you think what he said has some negative effects?

By the way, your site is so great. Keep up the good work!

All the best,
Wesley
Wesley,

Actually, Coburn said, “I have two small pair. Eights, and Eights.” I love Maverick. It’s a fun move and involves my favorite game, Five Card Draw. Coburn didn’t do anyone a disservice by calling his hand like this. In most casinos, cards speak. What this means is that the dealer determines the winner of the hand by identifying the winning hand. You don’t have to know your exact hand to win, although you should.

Chances of Hitting

Hi,

I’m wondering if what are the odds for the over cards hitting again, any idea? And before preflop, how do you figure them out? Well I do know that there’s a 6 out of 47 and 6 out of 46 percent chance of hitting on the turn and river, however how do you calculate for all three cards of the flop? Your thoughts please.

Hope to hear from you soon.

Many thanks,
Jeffrey Green
Jeffrey,

The odds of your overcards hitting the flop are 2 to 1 against. To calculate this, deduct the number of cards in your hand and all the aces and king remaining in the deck. The flops that can be dealt that miss your hand is C(44,3). The percentage of flops you won’t pair is C(44,3)/C(50,3), or about 67%, which is 2:1 once converted into odds.

Heads Up Odds

Hi,

Just recently, I had an argument with a certain guy online. Well, he went all in with Queens and had two callers who created a side pot. Back then, I had AJ. There was another guy but I don’t know what he had then as he folded earlier. At some point, I had running Aces on the turn and river to win the hand. He then started complaining about my luckiness. I told him afterwards that Queens was not a mortal lock as long as I had one overcard and straight potential. And that with two callers, he was actually the favorite but also the overall dog.

I’ve been watching WSOP for some time now and from it I’ve learned a few things. The most important thing I guess is the one about when a pair against two overcards is a 53% favorite head’s up; the higher of two pairs is an 80% favorite head-to-head.

Anyway, guy who hosted the house game said I played the worst starting hand (72) against the best (AA) which will win about 12% of the time. Your thoughts?

On a side note, what are the odds of QQ against AJ as outlined above? I think the answer would be around 65%.

Thank you in advance!

Best regards,
Tyler
Tyler,

Pocket queens are 71% against A-J. 7-2 offsuit will indeed beat A-A 12% of the time. You were incorrect with him being an overall underdog with two callers. Actually, with 2 callers, he becomes more of a favorite over you depending on the hand. His win percentage is lowered, but so is everyone elses.

As far as your hand, you were fortunate to win, but heads-up both of the hands were very strong. He is just upset you won.

JJ Against AQ

Hi,

I played poker last night with some friends. At some point of the game an argument came up. First I said that a pair of jacks is a better starting hand than A/Q. A friend of mine then said that A/Q has a higher winning percentage than the pair of jacks. Who do you think is right?

Thanks in advance!

All the best,
Franco
Franco,

Pocket jacks are a 54% to 46% favorite when the A-Q is suited. It changes to 57% to 4% when the A-Q is unsuited. The Jacks are the better hand, but your still nearly a coinflip to win.

Hand Percentages

Hi,

For once I used the 2/4 rule about post-flop percentages and it really helped me. But now I want to know if there is a short-cut way to calculate winning percentages pre-flop, what do you think?

Just recently I discovered that there are instances that multiplying your outs by 8 works. However at times, it seems not to work that much. For example, when you have a pocket pair vs. an over- and under-card (QQ vs. AJ). Well, I understand that there are some factors to consider first. For the most part, percentages are usually close. Your thoughts please.

Hope to hear from you soon.

Thanks!

Best regards,
Chester
Chester,

Invest in an odds calculator or create a chart to memorize preflop odds. Preflop is less about calculating odds as it is picking strong starting hands in proper position. If you need odds calculations to determine to play a particular starting hand, then you should probably fold.

About Odds

Hello,

I don’t want to offend you with this but you listed before the odds of 2 over cards improving to a pair by the river at only 26% while you listed the odds of AK hitting an A or a K by the river at even. Why these two are not the same? Anything behind this?

Thank you very much in advance.

Warm regards,
Dave
Dave,

The reason these values are different is because that in the case of the over cards, there are more known cards. If you hold 10-J and someone has a pair of nines, you know two of the possible cards and actually eliminated 4 outs from the calculation. In this case you know 6 of 52 cards.

The calculation of A-K improving to a pair is based on no other cards being known. In this case you only know 2 of 52 cards.

On Wired Pairs

Hello,

On TV last night, the host kept on pinpointing players who wired pairs. It seemed to me on any pair, 2′s, 5′s, 9′s etc. What do you mean by wired pairs?

Thank you in advance!

Best regards,
Benz
Benz,

A wired pair is a pair that you have in the hole. Pocket 5’s, 2’s, and 9’s are all wired pairs.

Personal Points

Hi,

Just the other day, I saw and have actually read the question about the Ultimate Bet’s Algorithm. I would like to make some points, I hope it’s okay.

First, most if not all of the poker sites use software from the Microgaming organization. Second, some poker sites have letters of approval from auditors who are internationally renowned. Third, I believe it’s quite easy and simple to fall into the trap of questioning card activity due to the amount of hands played. Fourth, turn at such instance was expected to be 1 of 5 cards listed as 6 (4 of), K (4 of), pair 1 of the flop cards J,8,3 (3 of, each) which then equaled to 17 cards and 1/2 odds or 67% probability. Therefore, the 81% sample doesn’t fit. Finally, the odds of the river are actually moving or acting the same as the turn, in case turn doesn’t hit, two will be the same.

I hope I make sense here.

Many thanks,
Mr. Hansen
Mr. Hansen,

With all the recent investigations involving Ultimate Bet, it probably would be inappropriate for me to comment on their site specifically. I would say that with most sites, that due to the high number of hands played, there will be some abnormal looking occurrences. My best suggestion to players would be to switch sites if you think something is fishy with the site you play at. Of course, there is also live poker.

Couple of Questions

Hello,

I’m here to ask couple of questions. But before I lay them down let me first thank you for creating and maintaining a site like this one. It has been a great help to me and to many others. Keep up the good work!

Now, here are my two questions:

1. You once said that the odds of a pair pre-flop are 6% but the odds of AA or KK preflop are 9%. Why is this so? Is there any difference?
2. Why do you think poker is getting more and more popular? Do you think the Rounders movie has something to do with this? How about the power of television?

Thanks in advance!

All the best,
James
James,

1. The odds of being dealt a preflop pair are around 6%. The odds of being dealt Aces or Kings is no different than being dealt deuces.
   
2. The popularity of poker has been mainly due to ESPN’s World Series of Poker and Chris Moneymakers win in 2003. Rounders is a great movie, but only helped make Holdem popular in a small way. Thank Chris Moneymaker for the current poker boom.

Trey Vs. Deuce

Hi,

Last week, in ESPN’s fictional game, a father/son ended up as adversaries in a certain hand. I remember the father had Jack/trey and the son had Jack/deuce. Flop was Jack-ten-eight. Honestly, I am not so sure about the ten and eight but they’re not important to the hand anyway. To continue, turn came and was another insignificant card, I think it was a five. Well, nobody paired on the turn or river. Do you think the result should be a tie? A split pot perhaps?

Later, the winning hand was given to the father as his trey was higher than his son’s deuce. I don’t exactly understand this, hope you can help me.

Hope to hear from you in no time.

All the best,
Anthony
Anthony,

This should have been a split pot. Both players had a pair of Jacks with a 10-8-5 kicker. If the hand unfolded as you described, then whoever made the show didn’t know what they were doing.

Quite Unusual Holdem Tables

Hello,

I believe most casinos in Atlantic City now have holdem tables similar to black jack. What I know is that you have to play against the 2 hole cards of the dealers and there’s an upfront bet you place for your 2 cards. In the event you want to go on to the flop, you must bet again. Same thing for the turn as well as river except the bet is doubled if you want to go on. Later part, dealer will show his cards and of course better hand wins.

In case I play at the tables above, is there any strategy I should apply? What hands should I be playing and how do you think such tables be played?

Many thanks,
Michael
Michael,

You are not playing normal Texas Holdem here. You are playing a table game of Texas Holdem that is setup for the casino to make money similar to blackjack. Basically, you are playing against the dealer only. Unless I have a hand such as AK or AK or AJ, I usually get out the hand if I don’t hit a pair on the flop, unless I have a draw. Also, this game pays bonuses based on certain pocket cards etc.

This is something you can play for fun, but don’t go into this thinking you are playing normal poker. You are not. This is a house game and the advantage is with the house.

On Heads Up Play

Hello,

Can you actually make a grouping of what cards to play? And another one, I don’t totally understand being in the small blind and the big blind in heads up or even 3 players, can you please explain it to me?

Hope to hear from you.

All the best,
Howee
Howee,

The small blind is on the button in heads up play. The button will act first preflop and then last for the rest of the hand. The button and blinds move around as normal in a 3 handed game.

As far as hand ranges, you can play most any reasonable hand. Strong hands include any two cards 10 and up, any pair, and any ace (suited or non). These are all raising hands. You can usually see a flop with other hands and try to catch lucky. Of course 7-2 and hand of that sort I would stay away from unless I’m in the blind or we are seeing every flop for the blinds only.

With Two Pair

Hi,

Just recently, I was burned five times in a row. All instances has something to do with me flopping two pair on the board. Well, at some instances I flopped bottom pair with no ace and no suits and have slow played.

Now, if its a rainbow flop and you are in front or middle position, how do you go about playing two pair? I badly need to hear your answer/opinion on this.

Many thanks,
Alexander
Alexander,

It depends on the flop and the players. You may want to slow play to extract more money, and you may want to bet out to accomplish the same effect. Also, if there is an overcard to your pair, you may want to be out to avoid someone calling with one pair and pairing the board to counterfeit your two pair.

About AQs and Maniac Style of Play

Hi there!

Say you begin with 800 chips and blinds are 15/30. Just as the same in the early tourney like
third hand, you see AQs and you raise it up to 60. Then some callers appear however not the blinds. One or two of the callers are actually known for not being good and will call on poor hands. Then say flop is Qxx rainbow. In early position I bet approximately 60-90. Player behind me goes all in. Will this now ask for a call? Or else for a let go of my 120-150 chips and a lay down of my high pair?

Another thing, about the maniac style of play on money tables, do you think I should go play the same maniac style and have more money despite the risk of losing what I currently have?

I’ll be glad to hear from you in no time.

Thanks and more power!

Regards,
Alexis
Alexis,

I would call here. There is a good chance this guy has a under pair or something like Q-10 or K-Q.

As far as playing a maniac style, that is a style that you need to develop. Don’t just adjust in the middle of a tournament without understanding it. I would tinker with the style in either low limit on free money games and proceed from there.

Hand Groupings

Hello,

Because of my belief that by knowing the second table on Texas Holdem hand groupings would help me bring my game up a notch, I therefore decided to know and memorize the different hand groups. But unfortunately I found out that the order of the hands seemed to be in random so the familiarizing and all became difficult. To make things easier, I tried to re-order the hands within each group following the system of pair, suited hands, unsuited hands, etc.

Now, I would like to hear your opinion about what I’ve done. Here are the modified tables:

Group 1: AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AKs
Group 2: TT, AQs, AJs, KQs, AK
Group 3: 99, ATs, KJs, KTs, QJs, AQ
Group 4: 88, A9s, A8s, QTs, JTs, AJ, AT, KQ
Group 5: 77, A7s-A2s, K9s, Q9s, J9s, T9s, KJ, KT, QJ, QT, JT Group 6: 66, 55, 44, 33, 22, K8s-K2s, Q8s, J8s, T8s, 98s, 97s, 87s, 75s, 64s, 43s, J9, T9, 98
Group 7: J7s, 96s, 86s, 85s, 76s, 74s, 65s, 54s, 53s, 42s, 32s, A9, K9, Q9, J8, T8, 87, 76, 65, 54

Hope to hear from you soon.

Best regards,
Charles
Charles,

This looks fine to me. You put it in order of strongest to weakest. I’m assuming this is a Limit Holdem chart.

Away from the Set

Hi,

I’m now into 1-2 NL cash games. I play for two times a week. Typically, games are very loose with raises to 10 dollars being called by 3-5 players.

Recently, in a certain game, I was very tight and so I was not able to see a lot of playable hands. In the SB, I had pocket 8′s. At some point, I raised to 10 but before that there were around 3 callers. BB then called and 2 others followed. I placed BB on a good hand while others on second-rate hands. Flop then came and brought 8-7-5 rainbow. I then placed 20 bet. BB raised me to 60. Two players then called the 60 while I went all in. After a while, both players called and flipped 6-4 and 9-6 over. Unfortunately, board didn’t gave any pair therefore I lost about 85.

Any thoughts about the way I played? What else could have done to get away from trouble?

Thanks in advance.

All the best,
Chin
Chin,

I believe you played fine. You had two bad players that flopped incredibly lucky. Also, remember that while they did get lucky against, you still had outs to win. I would have lost the hand too. Its hard to get away from top set on a medium flop such as that.

On Side Pots and Split Pot

Hi,

I’m curious about the rules regarding side pots. Can you help me? I want to know all the rules. Well, once in a certain event I saw 6 players went all in and 5 winners came back.

Another thing, in some games, whenever 2 players have the same 2 pair, the pot is not given to the player with the highest kicker instead is divided. How come? I don’t totally understand why.

Thank you so much for your time.

All the best,
Musso
Musso,

Playing With KK

Hello,

I play well in NL $200 with blinds $1-$2. I’m actually a shorthanded player. I used to play aggressively, but of course at times I’m also watchful and see it to it that I’m still on my limits.

Once, I was standing on $750 and was dealt KK in late position. A player who just came in with around $200 raised to $6 in early position. I then made it $15 to go and he called. Flop came and brought 9s 5s 2s. Afterwards, such guy went all in with $33 in the pot. I believe this was grossly over bet as a player with a made flush would call. If he had the nut flush or smaller suited connecting spades, there’ll be no sense at all. However I was bothered as if he doesn’t have a flush yet, what else could he have? Perhaps an over pair which I strongly believe I could beat. If not, a small pair hitting a set, or else just two over cards with one spade or a bad bluff.

What do you think was his hand then? Will it be worth calling if in case? And am I right with my conclusions?

Thanks!

Warm regards,
Clark Davis
Clark,

I would put him on a flush draw or a pair such as J-J or Q-Q or even A-K with a spade. I would have probably called here. If you folded her due to the pot laying such a high price, I can understand that. Calling $185 to win $218 is a bit of a stretch. With only having $15 invested, I can understand if you waited for a better spot.

Two Different Hands

Hi,

There are two hands I can’t forget. In a $2.5/5 NL holdem, I raised on the button to $20 with A-J. I had three callers, thus making it a multi-way pot. Flop came and brought Q-Q-3. Everybody then checked to me. For some reasons, I then placed $24 bet. The player whom I called “LaBarca” called, everyone else folded. Turn came and brought a K. He then checked. I felt weakness and so wanted to grab the opportunity to win the pot. Later, I placed $40 bet and so he called though with some doubts. By the way, I’m not fond of bluffing.

I remember I already had the T for a straight and an A or a J for a probable winning pair. River came however was a blank and so he checked again. At such point, I started questioning myself, “do I have the heart to fire the third bullet when I really feel it’s the right thing to do?”. After few seconds, I placed another bet, at such point, $80. “LaBarca” called once again.

Finally, showdown came. My opponent flipped A-8 off for no hand and no draw but Ace high and so we just end up dividing the pot with the Q’s and the K being in there.

Now, I don’t know what went wrong. I don’t believe I have expected much. What do you think?

About the next hand I had, A-4 of hearts. Suddenly I limped behind another limper with it. BB and the player on button limp as well while SB folded. We then had the flop four handed, 8-6-3 all hearts.

Eventually, first limper checked while I placed $10 bet. Player on button called while the first limper re-raised to $20. I then called. Player on button re-raised once again to $56 while limper called. I started to think as player on button has flopped a flush as well and the limper has either a set or two pair. Finally, turn came and was a 9c. Limper checked and I followed. For $418, player on button went all in while for approximately $300, limper called all-in.

Later, player on button flipped over Q-9 of hearts for a flush while the limper, 3-3 for a set of 3′s.

So what do you think on how I played the second hand? Well, in general, I have no regrets. Same thing with how I played the first hand. I believe as a student I’ve learned my lesson and has applied each lesson learned so well.

I hope to hear from you soon.

Thanks and nice site!

Antone
Antone,

In regards to the second hand, you played that fantastically. You got to see a flop for cheap and flopped the nuts. You then had two players that were aggressive and were able to take the stacks of both players. The only thing I would recommend doing differently is checking on the flop when you flop the nuts. Let the aggressive player control the betting. While this didn’t matter in the end for this situation, in the future let the aggressive player control the betting. You will usually make more money that way.

I Lost!

Hello,

I was in a 2/4 NL event the other night. Last hand came and I was dealt Kd2d in the big blind. Later, everyone called the big blind.

Flop came and brought 8cKc8d. Small blind then placed a half the pot bet. By the way, he was a total fish and was on mega-tilt having lost about 9 buy-ins. Eventually, I called. A friend of mine followed and also called. Everyone else folded. Turn came and brought Jd. With the shortest stack, small blind then went all in. I then called after considering so many stuff. Last guy followed and also called. River came however of no help to me, no diamonds at all. Afterwards, hoping to scare him off a bit, I then placed what’s left of my stack, as my bet. Later, he called my all in and then showed 7h8s. Small blind had Kh10h.

Well, he won the biggest amount and to be honest I was really upset and disappointed. I know I had some mistakes but I can’t directly pinpoint all of them. Also, I’m wondering, did I make the right decisions in terms of betting or I should have stopped at some point? Any thoughts?

Thanks a lot!

Edwards
Edwards,

Your mistake was staying in after the flop.