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How Important Are Pot Odds?
Yesterday I was in a friendly tourney. Something came up. Right after I mucked my straight flush draw on the river based on pot odds and saw the card I needed, I started to think if pots odds are really that important in a tourney ever since. Your thoughts on this?
In ring games I know pot odds are significant in case you want to play with probabilities and make them play in your advantage.
By the way, if I may just share this, I lost AAA once to a guy who called my all-in with lesser chips and with a straight draw on the river. He needed a 9 and then that was it, he got A 9 on the river. Was he just lucky then?
Thank you very much!
Regards,
Turner
Turner,
Pot odds are very important in tournaments. A lot of times it makes the difference in calling an all-in for your tournament life and folding.
In regards to the A-9 hand, he was just lucky. On the flop, he had 16% to win and on the turn he only had 8% to win.
About AQs and Maniac Style of Play
Hi there!
Say you begin with 800 chips and blinds are 15/30. Just as the same in the early tourney like
third hand, you see AQs and you raise it up to 60. Then some callers appear however not the blinds. One or two of the callers are actually known for not being good and will call on poor hands. Then say flop is Qxx rainbow. In early position I bet approximately 60-90. Player behind me goes all in. Will this now ask for a call? Or else for a let go of my 120-150 chips and a lay down of my high pair?
Another thing, about the maniac style of play on money tables, do you think I should go play the same maniac style and have more money despite the risk of losing what I currently have?
I’ll be glad to hear from you in no time.
Thanks and more power!
Regards,
Alexis
Alexis,
I would call here. There is a good chance this guy has a under pair or something like Q-10 or K-Q.
As far as playing a maniac style, that is a style that you need to develop. Don’t just adjust in the middle of a tournament without understanding it. I would tinker with the style in either low limit on free money games and proceed from there.
Lots of Questions
Hello,
I have lots of questions to ask. But before I begin, I would like first to congratulate you and thank you for this site which has been so nice and helpful.
Now, my questions are:
- At the table, any specific actions or mannerisms you keep record of?
- While in a hand, any questions you ask yourself?
- Say bottom pair BB check or bet instead?
- In tourney, when should one go all in or not with short stack?
- What’s the best or most efficient way to catch a bluff?
- Say small pocket pair middle position with or without raise before to your seat, what will you do?
- In the event you’re up as the chip leader, see many pots several pots?
Thanks again and keep up the good work!
Cheers,
Raymond
Raymond,
- I keep track of betting patterns of my opponent. I also take not of the physical way they bet different hands. I look for body language etc. I also listen to them talk and what they say or don’t say during hands. I also pay attention to what they do while they are in a hand and see if it changes during situations such as bluffs, monster hands, etc.
- What are the potential hands that my opponent may have right now. How does my opponent view me right now. Should I check or bet this flop. What is his stack size compared to mine. What are the odds for this hand improving?
- If you flop bottom pair and you are in the big blind, you will usually want to check unless you were the aggressor preflop. Then you want to make a continuation bet.
- With a short stack, try and find a reasonable hand that you can push your stack with. You really want to try to be the aggressor to allow yourself the best option to win. A pair, big ace, two big cards, or any reasonable ace are good hands to move in with. If the blinds and antes are about to go up, wait a little bit and move in after the level changes to try and pick up some extra money, especially if you have antes.
- The most effective way to catch a bluff is to learn your opponents betting patters. Also watch how they bet when they show hand that are the nuts and when they show bluffs. Try and notice differences in body language and the way they bet.
- You want to try and limp in with small pocket pairs in middle position. If you are facing a raise, if the raise isn’t huge and if you have at least one other caller, take a look at the flop and try and hit a set.
- If you are the chip leader, you do want to use your stack as a weapon, but be careful with tangling with big stacks without hands. You can widen your hand range some, but don’t get too careless or you may give up your chip lead.
12 Players At One Table
Hi,
I’m now planning a home tourney with 10 participants. But maybe later I’ll have 12. I don’t want to have more than 1 table and so I’m thinking if there’s any reason that could forbid me for having 12 players at just 1 table. Do you think there is?
Thanks,
Drew Witherspoon
Drew,
There is nothing that would prevent you from having 12 people at one table, other than physical space.
Last Two Places
Hi,
I hosted a No limit Texas Holdem tourney. The tourney was held at my house the other night. It was with $50.00 buy-in and $850 starting. I believe everything went well. In the end, three players were left for the prize money. By the way, money for the first placer was $400, for the second $200 and for the third $100.
At certain point, player A had approximately $5000, player B had $4500, and player C had $200. All figures were in chips. Later, player C went all in with $200 to post his blind of $150. Player A then called the $200 and then went all in too. At such moment, the main pot was already $400 and the side pot was $4600.
Eventually, player B called the all in and placed $200 in the main pot and $4300 in the side pot. That time, my belief was that only player C was entitled to win the main pot of $600 and players B and C were up for both the main pot and side pot.
Well, as expected, flop, turn, and river came. Player A had something so he won the pot of $600 and beaten player B in the side pot 8700 chips. But we don’t know who exactly will take the two other places, 2nd and 3rd. For me, players B and C were all out of chips, but player B had more chips on the call compared to player C and so player B should be the second placer while player C the third placer. What do you think?
Thanks!
Regards,
Needham
Needham,
In a tournament when multiple players are eliminated, the eliminated player that had the most chips at the start of the hand gets the superior placing. In your scenario above, player C is the third place finisher since he started with only 200 chips.
About the Second Place
Hello,
In a recent tourney, something came up. There were three players left and the first two pots were paid. Player A first acted out and placed 500 bet. Player B called the bet, he was then all in. Player C went all in however he has 550. Player A called the extra 50, thus having 100 in a side pot.
Later, player A had a full house, player B two pair and player C had ace high. Player A won the two pots but we were confused then who was the second placer. We thought of player B because of his hand that beaten player C’s hand in the final hand but we also considered player C as he had chips that player B can’t have technically. Any thoughts?
Thanks!
Regards,
Coleman
Coleman,
In a tournament when multiple players are eliminated, the eliminated player that had the most chips at the start of the hand gets the superior placing. Since player C started the hand with more chips, he finishes in 2nd.
Reshuffle or Not
Hello,
In a certain tourney, there were two players involved in a particular hand. At the turn, both checked. Player 1 checked at fourth street however player 2 placed a reasonable bet to put player 1 all-in.
Later, dealer thought player 1 folded and so placed the rest of the cards into the muck and then pushed the following cards to the following dealer. Afterwards, player 2 started to have the pot down however player 1 expressed he wanted to call the bet. Well, none of the players had mucked a hand at such point and so two cards were conceived to be still at the top of the pile.
In the end, though no one was totally sure which cards should be dealt, it was agreed to eventually burn and turn over the river card. Player 1 as a result had the winning hand. Because it was already mixed up with the mucked cards of the other players, deck could not be shuffled anymore.
Thanks for your time.
Wiederstein
Wiederstein,
It depends. Was a cut card used? If so, was the cut card left at the bottom of the mucked deck. If so, look for the cut card. If the deck was put on top of the muck pile, then the cards above the cut card is the deck. If the deck was mixed with the muck pile, then you have a problem.
I personally have not come across this situation so I asked help from a friend that is a tournament director for the World Series of Poker. She told me that in the event the deck was mixed up, take the entire muck pile, shuffle it, and then burn and deal out the rest of the hand.
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